Heres another collab with Ken....who did the music & Lyrics i just had the job of warbling along ...hope you enjoy!! All it Takes (Lyrics) These times are troublesome times it's a struggle to stay in tact Yes, troublesome days and a quarreling…

Updated version with guest vocalist: Matt Deforest

Chinese Whispers

well first i played two tracks with my carvin dc800 guitar then a track with my lb75 bass,then a track using my vdrum kit.its too goddam happy to be this thrashy and scumlike.if you know what i mean.i think you do.

My first collaboration effort. The other dude sent me drums and a lead melody then dropped off the face of the earth, but I imagine he'll find his way back. This song makes me think of being chased through underwater caves by fish people.